Comments on: Only churches should control marriage: Clive Palmer

By: marriageequalitynowin2015wearewaitingaustralia

marriageequalitynowin2015wearewaitingaustralia — Wed, 25 Nov 2015 02:43:41 +0000

Clive Palmer is a total wanker, much like our last one Tony Abbott!

By: Scott and Travis

Scott and Travis — Wed, 25 Nov 2015 02:41:17 +0000

I am a gay man who wants to get married to my partner of 22 years, but it is way too late now Australia. ISIS and the “moderate” Muslims within Australia have taken over the country by the millions in secret government boats and planes partnered an alliance with the Australian Christian Lobby to DEFEAT this marriage bill within the Australian Parliament! I will be moving to Wales permanently by early next year. It is very sad that Australia has let itself become a Muslim nation – much like Indonesia our neighbours to our north – which has an enforced “Sharia law” and that means the death penalty for gay men like us! Muslims are peaceful and Islam is a peaceful religion my arse!

By: Jason

Jason — Wed, 25 Nov 2015 02:26:54 +0000

MYTH: Australia is the only western nation that does not have marriage equality;
FACT: Ten western nations besides Australia still do not have marriage equality implemented, namely – Northern Ireland, Malta*, Germany, Jersey, Guernsey, Isle of Man, Finland, Faroe Islands, Greenland and Gibraltar. These places still ban marriage equality as well as Australia!

*Malta does recognises overseas same-sex marriages, but same-sex marriages can not be preformed within Malta itself.

By: Paul

Paul — Wed, 25 Nov 2015 02:17:20 +0000

I am deeply embarrassed to be Australian – in which we still nearly towards 2016, debate this marriage equality! Come on Australia I thought you were the “land of fair go” – but I was wrong! It is very simple – pass the “Marriage Legislation Amendment Bill 2015” into law now!

By: Derek Williams

Derek Williams — Tue, 24 Nov 2015 11:55:06 +0000

Requiring all couples to register with a Mosque, Synagogue or Church would exclude Atheists. Atheists can currently legally marry, and their relationship isn’t called “Civil Union”. They shouldn’t be forced to contact a church to get married in.

Marriages by churches have no force of law unless entered into the government register. I’d prefer to adopt the French system, where marriage is conducted solely by the government and made available to people of all faiths, and of no religion, and to all couples of legal age who wish to tie the knot, regardless of their respective gender. Church marriages should be ceremonial only, as they cannot agree with other on very much at all, e.g. divorce, birth control and women’s ordination.

By: Chris Vogel

Chris Vogel — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 15:34:01 +0000

Actually, marriage is a civil union. Whether or not a church is involved (and that is not obligatory), marriage is a legal status and its entitlements and responsibilities extend through scores of statutes (which mostly come into play in emergencies) which recognize the legal relationship that has been created between the partners and with their children. The churches, on the other hand, perform ceremonies (which vary in style and content considerably from one religion to the next) which, without legal registration, have no effect. Of course, it has always been, everywhere, in law, the case–including in all jurisdictions with anti-discrimination and same-sex marriage legislation, that no religious organization is ever obliged to conduct a marriage, or any other ceremony, with which they do not agree. To pretend otherwise is a lie. “Civil unions”, on the other hand, are a recent and artificial concoction, having only those legal aspects that the legislators in question have chosen to put in, and it is never as comprehensive, legally, as marriage. This is why a “civil union” in one jurisdiction is never accepted in any other jurisdiction, even if that other jurisdiction has “civil unions” since no two are the same. It is also the case that this clown, Clive Palmer, is a moron and a bigot.

By: Mercedes

Mercedes — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 00:28:42 +0000

To even attempt to address any of the absurdities trumpeted by this ass “Clive”, would merely elevate garbage to the status of actual political commentary.

By: helen

helen — Sat, 21 Nov 2015 11:45:46 +0000

Actually he makes a lot of sense on some occasions

Marriage Equality will occur in it’s due course

I don’t mind the plebiscite idea anymore and I think the gay lobby need to start looking at other alternatives

Direct democracy is a great idea

Malcolm Turnball is right

By: John Watts

John Watts — Fri, 20 Nov 2015 06:16:28 +0000

Here’s the question:

Not being Australian, nor in Australia….will he consent or have an issue if a church is willing to marry same-sex couples? Or will he fight that as well?

By: Mark

Mark — Fri, 20 Nov 2015 04:18:25 +0000

I am very embarrassed to be Australian with these four clowns running the show in parliament (Malcolm Turnbull, Bill Shorten, Clive Palmer and Warren Truss).

I thought Clive Palmer was better than this, but I was dead wrong. His party is a total joke now and he will lose his seat of Fairfax in the next election. Funny how the seat is named after a corporation of newspapers! he is yesterdays news in the trash!

It was bad enough with Tony Abbott, John Howard and Mark Latham, but this now takes the cake literally! Oh great another homophobe, forgive me while I throw-up in a bucket!

Marriage equality will never be achieved within Australia, with this lot of clowns!